Yep... the only explanation is that his hand came to be over the grip after he was shot (we know that didn't happen, but I'm playing with this crime scene still).
A very well known person involved in this case claims to have all the crime scene photos and swears there is a TEC-9 in the leaked photo. We're looking at a strap, but he insists the gun is in his hand and under his leg in the opposite position noted in the diagrams. He claims to have other photos that show the TEC more clearly and that his hand is over the grip. Well that's clearly not true. We'd see both the barrel and magazine well sticking out from under his leg no matter what orientation the gun is in if it were actually in the photo.
I traced the photo to roll #8, which was taken hours after they removed the TEC from the body/scene (according to the documentation, of course). And they had to pull Dylan's hand out from under his leg. So we're looking at a photo that was allegedly taken after they pulled his hand out from under his leg, cut the strap of the TEC, and removed it from the scene. The cut strap is clearly visible.
... and yet key players in the case keep saying there is a gun in the photo and that they have additional photos that show the gun more clearly. He had the mini version of the gun and there's no way it would be hidden because of its size.
Why would someone so close to the case (in this case, an insider who has released so many things over the years) lie about the gun being in this photo? Hmmm.
I have come to the conclusion that this man is not delusional or trying to lie to keep the story going. I think he is trying to get people to look closely at the leaked "suicide photos" to notice what's wrong with them, because he keeps saying "look at his hand, look at his hand." When you look at Dylan's hand, something magical happens - you realize there's no gun, but also, you can see the bad Photoshop job where they Photoshopped the strap of the gun so poorly it's physically impossible for it to be the way it is. (I will re-post that info at a later time).
Couple of things I'd like to bring up. #1 Have you taken into consideration the carpeted floor at the library? Maybe it was easier for him to fall and have his arm slip in a weird position. Doesn't take in account the grip but maybe it kind of explains where his hand ended up? #2 to me it always seemed that someone pulled Dylan back by the shoulder to check him. Since the consensus is that he didn't die right away, someone in the library might've stepped up to check him after those final gunshots. Or the police did that and didn't push him back the way he originally was found?
Yes. Definitely. That was part of the demonstration. It's physically impossible for his arm to be in that position without being broken. He did roll over onto his back, but the arm position is impossible for all potential scenarios. It's definitely something you have to get on the ground and try to see what I mean. He could not have fallen and then rolled over and have his arm that way without it breaking. His arm was put under his leg and over the TEC grip after he rolled over. (The scene was staged). Once you study the arm position and mimc it, rolling forward and backward, you'll see that his arm should be broken.
According to the crime scene documentation, Dylan fell on Eric's shin on the right side of his head briefly enough to allow blood to flow out of his head (a minute maybe), and then he rolled over onto his back where he bled out the rest of the way.
Him rolling over (whether or not he rolled over or someone pushed him) is incompatible with his arm and hand position. His arm would have been broken.
Before I found out these people are alive, I would have said it could not have been a student or police officer who pushed Dylan over because he rolled over within a minute of being shot and nobody was there at that time and no student admitted to this. However, since they never died, that's now a moot point. :P
Of course, since Dylan didn't die, it's just a staged scene, which makes sense of the inconsistencies. They just put makeup on them, staged the floor with fake blood, and had them get into position for the photo shoot without taking the arm position into account to make sure it matched their story. It's just one more detail they overlooked.
Getting on the ground to experiment with this is what made me realize something was very wrong with the documentation. Dead people can't grab guns and pull them all the way under their leg. Basically, if Dylan fell in some position and rolled over, the only way he would have his arm in that position is if he grabbed the gun and lifted up his right leg and pulled the gun all the way under his leg (after having been shot). They said he was capable of "some" involuntary movement, but what would be required for him to pull the gun under his leg wouldn't count as that type of involuntary movement. I hope that makes sense! I thought the position made sense until I tried it for myself.
Interesting, the grip doesn't make any sense at all, it's illogical.
Yep... the only explanation is that his hand came to be over the grip after he was shot (we know that didn't happen, but I'm playing with this crime scene still).
A very well known person involved in this case claims to have all the crime scene photos and swears there is a TEC-9 in the leaked photo. We're looking at a strap, but he insists the gun is in his hand and under his leg in the opposite position noted in the diagrams. He claims to have other photos that show the TEC more clearly and that his hand is over the grip. Well that's clearly not true. We'd see both the barrel and magazine well sticking out from under his leg no matter what orientation the gun is in if it were actually in the photo.
I traced the photo to roll #8, which was taken hours after they removed the TEC from the body/scene (according to the documentation, of course). And they had to pull Dylan's hand out from under his leg. So we're looking at a photo that was allegedly taken after they pulled his hand out from under his leg, cut the strap of the TEC, and removed it from the scene. The cut strap is clearly visible.
... and yet key players in the case keep saying there is a gun in the photo and that they have additional photos that show the gun more clearly. He had the mini version of the gun and there's no way it would be hidden because of its size.
Why would someone so close to the case (in this case, an insider who has released so many things over the years) lie about the gun being in this photo? Hmmm.
I have come to the conclusion that this man is not delusional or trying to lie to keep the story going. I think he is trying to get people to look closely at the leaked "suicide photos" to notice what's wrong with them, because he keeps saying "look at his hand, look at his hand." When you look at Dylan's hand, something magical happens - you realize there's no gun, but also, you can see the bad Photoshop job where they Photoshopped the strap of the gun so poorly it's physically impossible for it to be the way it is. (I will re-post that info at a later time).
Couple of things I'd like to bring up. #1 Have you taken into consideration the carpeted floor at the library? Maybe it was easier for him to fall and have his arm slip in a weird position. Doesn't take in account the grip but maybe it kind of explains where his hand ended up? #2 to me it always seemed that someone pulled Dylan back by the shoulder to check him. Since the consensus is that he didn't die right away, someone in the library might've stepped up to check him after those final gunshots. Or the police did that and didn't push him back the way he originally was found?
Yes. Definitely. That was part of the demonstration. It's physically impossible for his arm to be in that position without being broken. He did roll over onto his back, but the arm position is impossible for all potential scenarios. It's definitely something you have to get on the ground and try to see what I mean. He could not have fallen and then rolled over and have his arm that way without it breaking. His arm was put under his leg and over the TEC grip after he rolled over. (The scene was staged). Once you study the arm position and mimc it, rolling forward and backward, you'll see that his arm should be broken.
According to the crime scene documentation, Dylan fell on Eric's shin on the right side of his head briefly enough to allow blood to flow out of his head (a minute maybe), and then he rolled over onto his back where he bled out the rest of the way.
Him rolling over (whether or not he rolled over or someone pushed him) is incompatible with his arm and hand position. His arm would have been broken.
Before I found out these people are alive, I would have said it could not have been a student or police officer who pushed Dylan over because he rolled over within a minute of being shot and nobody was there at that time and no student admitted to this. However, since they never died, that's now a moot point. :P
Of course, since Dylan didn't die, it's just a staged scene, which makes sense of the inconsistencies. They just put makeup on them, staged the floor with fake blood, and had them get into position for the photo shoot without taking the arm position into account to make sure it matched their story. It's just one more detail they overlooked.
Getting on the ground to experiment with this is what made me realize something was very wrong with the documentation. Dead people can't grab guns and pull them all the way under their leg. Basically, if Dylan fell in some position and rolled over, the only way he would have his arm in that position is if he grabbed the gun and lifted up his right leg and pulled the gun all the way under his leg (after having been shot). They said he was capable of "some" involuntary movement, but what would be required for him to pull the gun under his leg wouldn't count as that type of involuntary movement. I hope that makes sense! I thought the position made sense until I tried it for myself.